New Agusta deal leaves egg on Proton's face!

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New Agusta deal leaves egg on Proton's face
BMW said to have paid 93m euros for just one brand!!

By S JAYASANKARAN IN KUALA LUMPUR
Published August 21, 2007


THE management of national carmaker Proton may have erred
disastrously by selling loss-making and indebted Italian motorcycle
maker MV Agusta Spa for one euro back in 2005. Last month, the new
owner of Agusta sold just one of its three brands to German carmaker
BMW, allegedly for 93 million euros (S$192 million).
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Dr Mahathir: Vindicated of his bitter
opposition to the Agusta sell-off in 2005
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While it is clear that BMW did buy the Husqvarna brand from Gavi Spa,
the mysterious Italian-registered company that bought Agusta in 2005,
the pricing was never revealed. Still, a car industry executive told
BT that the 93 million euro price tag was 'entirely possible'.

If true, the Agusta purchase would have been an enormously lucrative
one for Gavi and will cast Proton's management in a dreadful light.
The Agusta sell-off would also vindicate former prime minister and
current Proton adviser Mahathir Mohamad who was bitterly critical of
Proton's decision to sell the motorcycle maker.

In fact, the former premier was so angry about the sale that he even
wrote a letter of complaint about the deal to the Securities
Commission, the regulator of the markets. Nothing, however, came of
it.

Proton, then under the stewardship of a Dr Mahathir favourite, Tengku
Mahaleel Ariff, bought Agusta for 70 million euros (then roughly
RM368 million or S$152 million) in December 2004. Even so, the deal
also came with a substantial, although unspecified, amount of debt.

Agusta's financial position was quickly revealed in the carmaker's
books subsequently. For the year to March 31, 2005, Proton wrote off
the entire RM368 million it spent on Agusta. It subsequently made
provisions of RM136 million relating to Agusta over the next three
quarters.

In July 2005, Tengku Mahaleel stepped down after months of wrangling
with shareholders and the government. Meanwhile, Dr Mahathir publicly
criticised Proton's treatment of Tengku Mahaleel and refused to
attend Proton meetings in his capacity as adviser.

Deprived of its two biggest supporters, Agusta didn't last long. Five
months later, it was sold for less than RM5 to the mysterious Gavi
which agreed to take on its debt estimated then at 60 million euros.

Proton has yet to comment on the matter but the revelations of
Agusta's seemingly rich valuations of its brands are likely not only
to hurt Proton's management but its primary shareholder, state-owned
Khazanah Nasional, which supported Agusta's sale.

It will also embarrass Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi who
implicitly criticised his former boss, Dr Mahathir, by publicly going
to Proton's defence. Nor is it likely to impress German carmaker
Volkswagen AG which is on the verge of taking over the Malaysian
outfit.


Source : Autoworld
 
I have to show more :thefinger: to our :stupid: PM...... Knock him more on his head:damnmate:....... Why sell 1 Euro?? I'm willing to Pay 100 Euro...... Thats why PM must step down.....
 
if u want to talk, it must make sence la bro. u want to pay 100 euro for it, but do u have hundred millions money to pay the dept?
 
93mil - 60mil debt = earn 33mil
wonder the money goes to whose pocket ?
 
"mysterious italian registered company" ...can be Ali, Ahmad or Sami owned.... there is a common trick which works like this, Ali, the CEO of XYZ berhad saw one of the business in his company have potential value but the business is currently not well run, so he makes proposal to the board and suggested to sell the business, meanwhile, Ali registered a ABC company SPA in Italy, in the end the XYZ berhad sold the business to ABC company with 1 dollar and the board still happy coz they thought they got rid of some debt......

1 year later, ABC company sold the business with $$$$$ and still earn alot of money after paid off the debt for the business.....


transfer $$$ from the public to own hand....:)
 
common lo.. kasi org sendiri 1 la.. our gomen all giv money legally to their own ppl.. like lasttime de stupid spore bridge.. spore didnt n nvr agreed but hell stupig gov dun understand wut is NO n continue building de fkn bridge.. n den they say kenot.. must stop.. den de gov hav so bayar ganti rugi to de contractor.. who de fuck is de contractor? n y must pay ganti rugi?its so stupid to say continue building n den say stop n pay de fkn contractor...this is how u giv money to ur relatives..legally.. see where this country is goin to? if u notice.. this happen everyday... all projects.. sure kakilang 1..
 
if u want to talk, it must make sence la bro. u want to pay 100 euro for it, but do u have hundred millions money to pay the dept?
You're right, the 100 Euro is just dissing the G, but is selling 1 Euro is sensible to you?? Why would even BMW want to buy the design from Augusta if the company's design is that bad?? It's not Augusta fault, it's the parent company's fault... Proton don't even consider to rescue it, look for potential buyers, only thinking that selling Augusta away would decrease its losses..... It's not wise......

Like you say I might buy the business for 100 Euro, but how to pay the deb?? You see there's lots milionaires or billionaires on earth, bankers and enthusiasts that willing to fork out money to save it..... I might be poor and unknown but i can look for those rich ones ..... Everything has it's value, it's just how you extract it to maximum potential..... Just like Tony Fernandes, he's a moderate bloke with big vision when he take up Airasia, everyone laugh at him, now who's laughing to the bank...... Many big companies incur big losses or face brankruptcy: Ferrari, Nissan, Mitsubishi, BBS, Apexi, SSR, Sony (losses 3 billion last year, blame the PS3 design if you will) if i'm not wrong..... So will this stop banker from loaning money to these company??.... No, bank look at company's potential not at the management..... so very often when company policy or management change, bank will inject money again..... Again you might think it doesn't make sense....

Worst come to worst, I still own a company that i can deem it as my toy mah..... The new Augusta owner is so happy, 30 milion richer plus a company back on track..... It's not wrong to dream about it anyway, but Augusta owner's dream does come thru...
 
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Anybody knows Gavi Spa's owner and shareholders?? If it's belong to kakilang, it will be another fraudulent example to our G....
 
should be some kakilang la
there's a huge diffrence between a guy who's called a Doctor and a former farmer, one guy read loads and can speak and stand up for himself, another cant reply to criticism and just replies practiced phrases like a robot more like a puppet behind some YOUNG master...
 
Everytime got story on proton sure kena bash. Launch new car also kena bash. Same goes to the government

Why dont we open up a thread with the title "Government and Proton bashing thread". Then no need to open up so many threads which eventually will turn to a gov/proton bashing thread
 

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