Japan GP 2006

yup

best race for the year

thrilling overtaking by alonso and raikonnen, pity for fisichella who seem out of steam, and sato-san has really concluded that he is a careless driver
 
-fRëɧt¥£3R- said:
time n time again raikonnen has proven that he shud hav been the World Champion..
Mate, first time I'm in agreement with you.
 
Kimi Rocks

Kimi Rocks And McLaren RULES. 10 wins , 6 in a row, says it all.

Renaults' Alonso may be champion but Raikonnen ROCKS. In true Finnish Ice Coolness he wins, by taking the race by the scruff of the neck. The car's motion as he took Fisichella round the OUTSIDE of Turn 1 proves it.

After 5 yrs of suffering seing the Red Baron win it's a relief to see Silver win and win again. And the Blues too
 
hmm why everyone seems to ignore the fact that mclaren has a much faster car than the whole field n will only conclude that kimi is the fastest? not to be skeptical for the speed of raikonen (personnally i think he is one of the fastest but fastest?) i don think his skill alone was the deciding factor to win the race yday.. coz last time i checked alonso was very much in front of him right bfore fia screwed up his race by this so called MIScommunication thing.. since then alonso was stucked by traffic (for instance hav to overtake MS over n over again).. dare to say if he wasnt screwed by that he might hav a chance of winning..

kimi overtook many.. no doubt.. but having a fast car like that surely wont be much of a prob? alonso btw also overtook many.. but is it fair to say alonso's overtaking move yday shows how good n aggressive he is as a racing driver? the way he repassed klien after a smart setup.. the was he overtook MS in 130r? honestly it makes kimi's move look comparitively boring... (even though if u see it individualy his move was really clean n highly skilled.. but that kind of commitment wasnt really there)
 
BlackSamurai said:
Japan GP 2006, my vote for Race of the year 2006.
i think all of us are overjoyed, no one actually realise that I posted a wrong year. :D

ops, not, sunnyboy did notice that. :D

sunnyboy, not mabuk, but really really love those racing.

but what the heck that FIA did that ask Alonso to pull back?
 
another news

"The post-race finger pointing continued when Mark Webber blew the whistle on David Coulthard, who the Australian said jumped the start by 'two weeks'. "With the technology we have, they have to do something," he said. "One thousand per cent, he went before the lights went out.""

:D
hahaha, jumped the start by 'two weeks'
and 1000% confirm.
 
BlackSamurai said:
i think all of us are overjoyed, no one actually realise that I posted a wrong year. :D

ops, not, sunnyboy did notice that. :D

sunnyboy, not mabuk, but really really love those racing.

but what the heck that FIA did that ask Alonso to pull back?



bcoz FIA tot alonso first repass of Klien was not legal.. so they instruct renault to radio Alonso.. then when alonso did what FIA said.. FIA came back to renault n say they were mistaken but by then it was too late
 
GT3 said:
hmm why everyone seems to ignore the fact that mclaren has a much faster car than the whole field n will only conclude that kimi is the fastest? not to be skeptical for the speed of raikonen (personnally i think he is one of the fastest but fastest?) i don think his skill alone was the deciding factor to win the race yday.. coz last time i checked alonso was very much in front of him right bfore fia screwed up his race by this so called MIScommunication thing.. since then alonso was stucked by traffic (for instance hav to overtake MS over n over again).. dare to say if he wasnt screwed by that he might hav a chance of winning..

kimi overtook many.. no doubt.. but having a fast car like that surely wont be much of a prob? alonso btw also overtook many.. but is it fair to say alonso's overtaking move yday shows how good n aggressive he is as a racing driver? the way he repassed klien after a smart setup.. the was he overtook MS in 130r? honestly it makes kimi's move look comparitively boring... (even though if u see it individualy his move was really clean n highly skilled.. but that kind of commitment wasnt really there)


The Japanese Grand Prix - 09/10/2005
1 . K. Raikkonen - McLaren Mercedes MP4-20 - 1:31.540 ( Lap Record ) - Lap 44
2 . F. Alonso - Renault R25 - 1:31.599 (+ 0.059 ) - Lap 21
3 . G. Fisichella - Renault R25 - 1:32.522 (+ 0.982 ) - Lap 19
4 . J. Button - BAR Honda 007 - 1:32.754 (+ 1.214 ) - Lap 19
5 . M. Schumacher - Ferrari F2005 - 1:32.763 (+ 1.223 ) - Lap 25
6 . R. Schumacher - Toyota TF105B - 1:32.795 (+ 1.255 ) - Lap 9

0.059s difference between the front two, i don't know how you consider that as a"much more" faster car.

Raikonen passed Fisi on the final lap after chasing him like mad and won the race. Raikonen won 3-4 races after started from the back of the grid. And you , a GT3 on a forum got the guts to question his commitment to be a different one from Alonso, and called it boring.

Alonso can always count on Schuey to not crashing into him when he did the move at 130R, Schuey did a good job there, Renault was faster than Ferrari on the, it's an easy prey for Alonso. Fisi on the other hand got a car as fast as Raikonen and he almost gonna crash into Raikonen, Raikonen's move was much more risky, dangerous and exciting in the end.

Learn to give credit when it's due.
 
agree.....dun forget kimi started from 17..and he get into pit for twice just like others.....A Fast Machine without skill will not win....
 
GT3 said:
bcoz FIA tot alonso first repass of Klien was not legal.. so they instruct renault to radio Alonso.. then when alonso did what FIA said.. FIA came back to renault n say they were mistaken but by then it was too late

Alonso's "miscommunication" was earlier and he was right there battling with MS and KR moments later. He pitted while KR and MS continued few laps before both pitting the same time. When they emerged, MS and KR was in front by a few secs. Besides, after KR overtook MS, Alonso was nowhere to be seen and even after the 2nd pit stops, KR totally outraced Alonso and finished something like 15 secs ahead of Alonso. I really don't see how quick Alonso was. About traffic, KR too was stuck behind MS for quite a few laps and had to make an overtake. Even before his 2nd pitstops, he was stuck behind that BAR HONDA and BMW car. So traffic is not an issue. To me KR totally demolished Alonso in the Japan GP.

For whatever reasons, Fisi too suddently faded towards the end of the race and i believed that Fisi was giving his 100% best but just couldn't respond to KR's attack. The car is just not quick enuff.
 
zeroTohundred said:
0.059s difference between the front two, i don't know how you consider that as a"much more" faster car.

Raikonen passed Fisi on the final lap after chasing him like mad and won the race. Raikonen won 3-4 races after started from the back of the grid. And you , a GT3 on a forum got the guts to question his commitment to be a different one from Alonso, and called it boring.

Alonso can always count on Schuey to not crashing into him when he did the move at 130R, Schuey did a good job there, Renault was faster than Ferrari on the, it's an easy prey for Alonso. Fisi on the other hand got a car as fast as Raikonen and he almost gonna crash into Raikonen, Raikonen's move was much more risky, dangerous and exciting in the end.

Learn to give credit when it's due.


credit is given to Kimi in case u think i do not respect what he archieve.. i respect the fact he won the race and he does deserve it.. what i m saying is that if another driver like alonso would also deserve to win it if its not the incident with FIA..

jus so u know.. having a car fast for a lap is 1 thing.. having a car fast through out the race is another.. in terms of 1 lap yea probably renault aint that far away but given the fact that the mclaren this yr is generally the car who is kinder to its tire which means in the end of the race it would be faster in terms of race pace..

and another thing.. well u might not know abt suzuka.. the common place to overtake isnt that much but first corner is possible especially if some1 made a mistake in the chicane which in the end will resulted that the car would be much slower on the straight n fell as an easy prey for whoever is behind... kimi move on fisi well u could say whatever u want but its more usual.. only thing u could praise about the move is that kimi was smart enuff to pressure fisi into a mistake during the chicane n take advantage of it in the straight.. if u watch closely i believe u could see how rapidly kimi's car catch up with fisi on the straight right before he overtook fisi..

but to overtake at 130r? hell thats completely different.. u need really big balls and great skills to do so coz thats one of the fastest n most dangerous corner in all f1 track.. missjudge it n u not only end up in the wall u might be seriouly hurt.. n yea alonso could count on to Michael coz Michael is good and smart enufff to prevent that from happening but the same thing applies to kimi.. i believe kimi was behind michael for some laps n given his car is marginally faster than the renault as u put it.. it would make an easy prey out of Michael's ferrari isnt it? but such move on michael did not happen..

fisi car yea its identical to alonso but it wasnt fast yday for whatever reason.. its at least 1 and a half second slower than kimi's at the ending of the race.. my fren thats a big performance difference in terms of formula 1 car.. its a matter of time for kimi to overtake fisi.. if u say their pace are identical n kimi pulled a move on fisi at that corner.. that really respectable..
 
prodigy said:
Alonso's "miscommunication" was earlier and he was right there battling with MS and KR moments later. He pitted while KR and MS continued few laps before both pitting the same time. When they emerged, MS and KR was in front by a few secs. Besides, after KR overtook MS, Alonso was nowhere to be seen and even after the 2nd pit stops, KR totally outraced Alonso and finished something like 15 secs ahead of Alonso. I really don't see how quick Alonso was. About traffic, KR too was stuck behind MS for quite a few laps and had to make an overtake. Even before his 2nd pitstops, he was stuck behind that BAR HONDA and BMW car. So traffic is not an issue. To me KR totally demolished Alonso in the Japan GP.

For whatever reasons, Fisi too suddently faded towards the end of the race and i believed that Fisi was giving his 100% best but just couldn't respond to KR's attack. The car is just not quick enuff.

I would rather say Mclaren completely demolish Renault and evryone else during Japan GP instead of drivers demolishing another

and btw 15 secs aint too much given the car disadvange of renault.. n its not a matter of 1+1=2.. its not how much second alonso loose during the misscommunication and u can jus minus it from the race time.. if alonso had not been instructed to give way he would hav clear MS within that lap n then he would hav a completely diff race that might give him a shot on the win..
 
kkyen said:
agree.....dun forget kimi started from 17..and he get into pit for twice just like others.....A Fast Machine without skill will not win....

not forgotten.. i never say kimi isnt good.. in fact like in my previous post in this topic or the other (i forget which 1) i always think that kimi is one of the fastest out there.. what i m trying to say is that well kimi's good.. but dont ignore or look down at others who had a slower car but still capable of winning (namely alonso)
 

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