Anyone know how to HOMEMAKE fiber or carbon fiber?

[ninja_iga]

haahaaha :P

you guys ar..

okie i help you out a bit



you'll need:

-CSM (chopped strand mat) regular stuff, it's fibreglass mat. great for beginners, itchy and hazardous as heck.
sold by weight, about RM7-8 per KG.

-polyester resin, it's the resin that bonds everything together. Should come with the catalyst, which causes the resin to harden.
RM9-10 per kg, sold every 20kg.

-gelcoat
sold in 20kg cans, RM6-7 per kg.
This is to prevent the FIRST layer of polyester to be runny. Doesn't let it drool everywhere.

-cheapo brush to apply resin

-cheapo bucket (cedong) the one you use to scoop water from water basin and splash water on your head :P
to be used as a 'palette' as you 'paint' the resin onto the fibreglass.

-roller, to squeeze out the air from the fibreglass/resin mix, as you'd want the resin to bond with the fibreglass as much as possible.

-protective clothing (no need for wanna-be Banglas and Rambos)

-gloves (also no need for the local Rambos :P )

-mold release agent, can be specialist wax or spray type.

-color dye, to color the resin and thus creating a 'molded' color that lasts as long as the resin.
examples of this finish is clearly seen on Mc'Donald's restaurant seats.


have fun and well... i'm not responsible for anything you do! :lol:

 

[sam1741]

wow.. ninja

thanks thanks... now i know what meterial to get... :)




vyraz :
cool! that is good idea.. i know those metal is ligh weight...
what is the price ah hong sell it? :)

 

[Vyraz]

Originally posted by sam1741@Jan 28 2005, 10:26
wow.. ninja

thanks thanks... now i know what meterial to get... :)




vyraz :
cool! that is good idea.. i know those metal is ligh weight...
what is the price ah hong sell it? :)

i dunno la man.. u can call him and ask ma.
but the main prob is the kaki laa..

 

[sam1741]

kaki nvm la..
i just weld some metal
that got hole.. then i can bolt on to the existing kaki
then ok already.. :)

problem is to get the metal into shape.. :)

 

[Hikaru]

I don't know much about making CF, but you can find article here:

http://www.ffcobra.com/FAQ/cf.html

 

[xtorm]

Originally posted by ninja_iga@Jan 27 2005, 19:51
haahaaha :P

you guys ar..

okie i help you out a bit



you'll need:

-CSM (chopped strand mat) regular stuff, it's fibreglass mat. great for beginners, itchy and hazardous as heck.
sold by weight, about RM7-8 per KG.

-polyester resin, it's the resin that bonds everything together. Should come with the catalyst, which causes the resin to harden.
RM9-10 per kg, sold every 20kg.

-gelcoat
sold in 20kg cans, RM6-7 per kg.
This is to prevent the FIRST layer of polyester to be runny. Doesn't let it drool everywhere.

-cheapo brush to apply resin

-cheapo bucket (cedong) the one you use to scoop water from water basin and splash water on your head :P
to be used as a 'palette' as you 'paint' the resin onto the fibreglass.

-roller, to squeeze out the air from the fibreglass/resin mix, as you'd want the resin to bond with the fibreglass as much as possible.

-protective clothing (no need for wanna-be Banglas and Rambos)

-gloves (also no need for the local Rambos :P )

-mold release agent, can be specialist wax or spray type.

-color dye, to color the resin and thus creating a 'molded' color that lasts as long as the resin.
examples of this finish is clearly seen on Mc'Donald's restaurant seats.


have fun and well... i'm not responsible for anything you do! :lol:

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wow.seems like all add up quite a sum too! i rahter go buy 1lah.......:P

 

[ninja_iga]

ah.

of course expensive la.
but it's cheaper than buying a fibre bonnet outside.

 

[xtorm]

Originally posted by ninja_iga@Apr 2 2005, 01:14
ah.

of course expensive la.
but it's cheaper than buying a fibre bonnet outside.

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hahahaha.i guest.

guys...........if u wan the look only....get the sticker.....

but izit worth the triar n error? n the itch? cos bonnet so bigler

 

[jaywat]

Originally posted by xtorm+Apr 2 2005, 12:10 -->
QUOTE(xtorm @ Apr 2 2005, 12:10 )
--QuoteBegin-ninja_iga@Apr 2 2005, 01:14
ah.

of course expensive la.
but it's cheaper than buying a fibre bonnet outside.

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hahahaha.i guest.

guys...........if u wan the look only....get the sticker.....

but izit worth the triar n error? n the itch? cos bonnet so bigler

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If the sticker apply to small part of the car...still okay..but if apply on whole bonnet, very obviously can be regconized as sticker one... :)

 

[xtorm]

Originally posted by jaywat+Apr 2 2005, 12:40 -->
QUOTE(jaywat @ Apr 2 2005, 12:40 )

Originally posted by xtorm@Apr 2 2005, 12:10
--QuoteBegin-ninja_iga

@Apr 2 2005, 01:14
ah.

of course expensive la.
but it's cheaper than buying a fibre bonnet outside.

[snapback]861093[/snapback]​

hahahaha.i guest.

guys...........if u wan the look only....get the sticker.....

but izit worth the triar n error? n the itch? cos bonnet so bigler

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If the sticker apply to small part of the car...still okay..but if apply on whole bonnet, very obviously can be regconized as sticker one... :)

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duno for sureler..some 1 selling at clasified for rm3++ for 1 bonnet

 

[ninja_iga]

why so 'cheap'?

because it's the economies of scale.
The mold can possibly mold about 10-15 pcs (depending on mold quality)

and this would cover the molding costs and stuff.
hence the cheaper price tag la.

what materials + tools you buy, can use for several projects wan. :)

 

[poiki]

you can get fibreglass mats/sheets from ace hardware @ ikano, for about 27 per bag (about the size of a small head cushion). they are at the automobile section.

 

[ninja_iga]

warning*warning


THAT's FRIGGIN expensive!!!!

to buy a kilo (about 4-5 meters x 1 meter) is ONLY RM8-9 !!!!

and the one sold in Ace Hardware's RM27 for something the size of a table cloth..

 

[jaywat]

Anyone can post the processing + pic of the molding ??? :ph34r:

 

[jaywat]

No one following this thread?? :(

 

[yoel]

for mould:
u can use ur original bumper
let say u want to copy a bumper
just put dunno wat type of liquid on that surface of bumper - color

the color will reflek the fibre thing
the first fibre thing from the original thing will be a mould
but u have to touch up laa

tell me if im wrong

 

[ninja_iga]

haha

that's called the gel-coat.

correct, you need to use a 'master' to mold out your mould.

but the master needs alot of preparation to become the master!
it needs to be fully mold released, all holes blocked off, loose parts remove etc.

and adding 'end-plates' to make the end of the mold plane (prevents the gel-coat from running off to the floor)

then only you can start molding.

it's with gel-coat with color tint, and then a 2nd layer of gel-coat, and then dried to tacky feel, add a layer of fibreglass, and pressed down with wet resin with a brush, and fully pressed out with a roller.

let's say you want to make it 5 layers, then you need to repeat the laying of fibreglass mat and wetting it with resin and pressing out with roller, 5 times la.

YOU must wait for the fibreglass + resin mix to harden and cool first (the resin warms up during curing) before adding another layer.

failure to do so, will WARP the project :o

 

[jaywat]

Stanley,
What material you used to come out with a master mold?? :huh: ... seems very difficult...

 

[ninja_iga]

same, fibreglass + resin.

 

[SKY999]

stan,regarding the gel coat,u no need to mix with hardener and a kind of blue chemical?? beside,no need to aply car polish gel??