Toyota AE 111 Black Top LSD

[yuzukhor]

Hi all the sifu here,i'm newbie here.:wavey:Recently juz transplant my corolla 4AFE to 4AGE black top,so any one know does that all the AE 111 black top manual do comes with the LSD ?
And also is it come with which brand or juz standard toyota LSD only.
Thanks & regards.

 

[scottwrx]

as far as i know, only levin bz-r 6 speed comes with standard LSD, where as 5 speed i not not too sure.. urs is 5 speed or 6 speed?

 

[yuzukhor]

Thanks first sifu,as for my one is 5 speed,but when i buy the half-cut,i have try to rotate the wheel in neutral gear,and both wheel spin at the same direction,and this is the thing that make me curious about the LSD thing.And also the scrap shop ppl told me that this half-cut unit got full lock LSD,and the radiator panel have 1 cusco sticker.

 

[pcmoddingmy]

Yup, some 5spd blacktop does have LSD depending on Levin/Trueno package.

 

[yuzukhor]

yup,thanks bro.If let say for trueno package ?
Does it come with ?I mean iz trueno AE111 black top.

 

[scottwrx]

dun call me sifu lah... i m new also.. juz helping out coz my h/c is bzr 6 speed, so come with standard lsd,
cusco full lock?? wah... confirm not standard toyota lah... coz standard only 1 way so on work when gear is engaged.. for more info.. have to ask other more experienced sifus already..

 

[yuzukhor]

ok thanks bro
it's nice to chat with you,hope to chat with you again,got to go man.:wavey:

 

[ngjenwei]

as i know superstrut version also got ori 1 way lsd.

 

[blackend]

its means ur half cut it not std condition.gearbox alredy changed to full lock LSD before the halfcut brought here..
as far as i know for original Levin n Trueno (5 sp & 6 sp) just have a viscous LSD

 

[t-la]

Thanks first sifu,as for my one is 5 speed,but when i buy the half-cut,i have try to rotate the wheel in neutral gear,and both wheel spin at the same direction,and this is the thing that make me curious about the LSD thing.And also the scrap shop ppl told me that this half-cut unit got full lock LSD,and the radiator panel have 1 cusco sticker.

in that case...yeah, u got lsd, the scrap-shop pll told u alredi mah...

 

[AE101-Wong]

from user said if wheel spin same direction means got full lock la..
congrats u 1st, but u might suffer the weird sound, if u ok then nothing la..
some of my friend dunno how to enjoy the full lock gearbox...haha!!

 

[nnik]

u r so glad...buying btop halfcut come wif LSD...now a days price for LSD gbox boleh tahan laaa...heheheheh

 

[yuzukhor]

But i buy that Btop also not cheap leh.
I buy that half-cut at RM5k leh.

 

[cuscostrutbrace]

Actually i am curious about this LSD thing long time ago,until now,what is LSD full lock means?People say when it got sound 'ktak ktak ktak' when turning,it is 'Full lock' LSD,how is actually the LSD classified as full lock,as i never seen LSD manufacturer use that word to advertise their product.

Any sifoo?

 

[chinozie]

yup...i'm curious too...why full lock...why we need it to be both running during normal cruising ?

for me full lock is more like those drifter who welded thier rear drive thinggy...

all i know that there are only :

Eaton Locker, Frictional, Viscous, Torsen, Quaife and Active LSD...
which viscous, Torsen or Quaife suitable for FWD car...others is to harsh for FWD...but suitable for 4WD and RWD car...

 

[cuscostrutbrace]

Maybe 'full lock' is a term born in Malaysia..It is it full lock,then it should not be called LSD,it should be called NSD (No slip differential),hehe..All i know is LSD is classified into type of the mechanism,like Chinozie said.Most popular LSDs are Clutch type,Torsen and Viscous.Among this the clutch type is the most popular,and usually classified as 1 way,1.5 way and 2 way.But i heard a lot of ppl talking about 'full lock' LSD,makes me confused.

All clutch type LSD have pre-load,which determines how strong the torque needed to force it into 'open' differential during turning.This preload is usually by means of springs in the LSD casing.It can be change or 'tuned' to give initial feel before the LSD comes into play (during hard acceleration).I think people mistaken this as 'full lock'...hmm...just a thought though

 

[yuzukhor]

Izzit "Full lock" = 2way LSD ?

 

[chinozie]

might be...so called "Full lock" ...heeee...

1 way - LSD locks on acceleration
1.5 way - LSD locks on acceleration and some on deceleration...which is good in control during cornering
2 way - locks on both accel and decel...good for drift car...this is what they said...full lock i guess...:hmmmm:

all have thier type on driving on different car application...do google it...

 

[yuzukhor]

Thanks pals....:wavey:

 

[cuscostrutbrace]

I dont think so,but maybe some people means 'full lock' is 2 way LSD.

2 way LSD is called '2 way' is because it will lock on acceleration and deceleration(braking),which usually favored by drifters to initiate a drift during braking,rarely used on Front wheel drive car because if it locks during braking,it will cause understeer.FWD car usually used 1 or 1.5way LSD.2 way LSD does not lock under normal condition,unless the preload springs is very stiff causing the tires almost impossible to break the grip of the preload springs.

I have driven both 2 way LSD(TRD) and torsen LSD(standard OEM) and the feeling is very different.With 2 way LSD i can almost instantly lock the wheels under hard acceleration,torsen is much softer feel and hard to determine the locking point.

What are your opinion?