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<blockquote data-quote="satria_95" data-source="post: 1178191" data-attributes="member: 1506"><p>The first person I empathize with is Tom. He started this forum with well being, having trust that members would READ THE RULES of the thread and adhere to it, or at least, the serious and important ones. However, many new members (or so it seems) are coming up with what-seems nonsensical threads and topics as mentioned by wira_na. In addition, the flaming seems to start so easily, majority of it seem to come from new members.</p><p></p><p>I could recall, back in the first versions, many of us were friends and flames were resolved rather quickly but even then, many of the flames were just misunderstanding. Once cleared, both the "flamers" were laughing with each other again.</p><p></p><p>Just to add to wira_na's points, I personally feel that various members don't even apply common sense and logics when the start threads or posts their opinion/whatever. One common thing I see is that when someone posts, for example, 5 big photos. The replying member will QUOTE the 5 photos again. I do not understand why they would want to re-QUOTE the photos again and make the page load even slower. Even after telling them not to do it, they still do it. If I were to get down to the root of the problem, I'd outwardly say that it's the parents who didn't teach their kids (the one who quoted the photos again and again) any common sense.</p><p></p><p>wira_na has made some good points, but like silverfish mentioned, the point about reposting news articles again is both right and wrong. Right in a sense that, yes, we might as well just read it from <a href="http://www.thestar.com.my" target="_blank">www.thestar.com.my</a> or <a href="http://www.malaymail.com.my" target="_blank">www.malaymail.com.my</a> but on the contrary, when a news is posted, it becomes a place for us to exchange opinions, suggestions, views and whatnots, except flames and such. With environments like these, we can use it as a training ground for us to;</p><p>- open our minds</p><p>- read other people's opinion and NOT shoot them but rather, consider, ponder about it and see what we can get from it</p><p>- humble ourselves and see others with opposing ideas as friends with a different point of view</p><p>- gain more friends through understanding and acceptance of different views from different race, religion, skin color, nationality, etc.</p><p>- discuss open topics like adults (and sometimes act like kids just to make jokes and have a few laughs) and expose our minds</p><p>- and bla bla bla</p><p></p><p>I could see that a number of new members seems to hunger for recognition, power, reputation, etc. and because of that, they post like they know lots of stuff. Does age really need to be the factor that contributes to experience? I believe not so but only if the invididual learns to humble themselves and have an open mind. I regularly tell myself, "who do you (refering to me) think you are to talk and behave like that?" or "you think you are so great to act/talk like that?" or "you talk like that, but do you think you are greater than many people out there?" or that kind of questions. Try asking yourselves, "How great do you think you are for behaving/talking like that?" I constantly find myself at a very low level after asking those questions. And it is only because there are thousands, perhaps millions or people who are far better than I am so who am I to talk like I know a lot?"</p><p></p><p>Just sharing some points to ponder about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="satria_95, post: 1178191, member: 1506"] The first person I empathize with is Tom. He started this forum with well being, having trust that members would READ THE RULES of the thread and adhere to it, or at least, the serious and important ones. However, many new members (or so it seems) are coming up with what-seems nonsensical threads and topics as mentioned by wira_na. In addition, the flaming seems to start so easily, majority of it seem to come from new members. I could recall, back in the first versions, many of us were friends and flames were resolved rather quickly but even then, many of the flames were just misunderstanding. Once cleared, both the "flamers" were laughing with each other again. Just to add to wira_na's points, I personally feel that various members don't even apply common sense and logics when the start threads or posts their opinion/whatever. One common thing I see is that when someone posts, for example, 5 big photos. The replying member will QUOTE the 5 photos again. I do not understand why they would want to re-QUOTE the photos again and make the page load even slower. Even after telling them not to do it, they still do it. If I were to get down to the root of the problem, I'd outwardly say that it's the parents who didn't teach their kids (the one who quoted the photos again and again) any common sense. wira_na has made some good points, but like silverfish mentioned, the point about reposting news articles again is both right and wrong. Right in a sense that, yes, we might as well just read it from [url]www.thestar.com.my[/url] or [url]www.malaymail.com.my[/url] but on the contrary, when a news is posted, it becomes a place for us to exchange opinions, suggestions, views and whatnots, except flames and such. With environments like these, we can use it as a training ground for us to; - open our minds - read other people's opinion and NOT shoot them but rather, consider, ponder about it and see what we can get from it - humble ourselves and see others with opposing ideas as friends with a different point of view - gain more friends through understanding and acceptance of different views from different race, religion, skin color, nationality, etc. - discuss open topics like adults (and sometimes act like kids just to make jokes and have a few laughs) and expose our minds - and bla bla bla I could see that a number of new members seems to hunger for recognition, power, reputation, etc. and because of that, they post like they know lots of stuff. Does age really need to be the factor that contributes to experience? I believe not so but only if the invididual learns to humble themselves and have an open mind. I regularly tell myself, "who do you (refering to me) think you are to talk and behave like that?" or "you think you are so great to act/talk like that?" or "you talk like that, but do you think you are greater than many people out there?" or that kind of questions. Try asking yourselves, "How great do you think you are for behaving/talking like that?" I constantly find myself at a very low level after asking those questions. And it is only because there are thousands, perhaps millions or people who are far better than I am so who am I to talk like I know a lot?" Just sharing some points to ponder about. [/QUOTE]
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