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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wfhan" data-source="post: 1063353176" data-attributes="member: 1620">Zeus83, tat is what u 'feel' ma. maybe ur 3sgte's knock sensor has higher tolerance level?.Perhaps altezza's 3sge knock sensor is more sensitive and aggressive in sendingvoltage signal to the ecu.let's say in real the 3sge of altezza tends to knock and ping too often due to lower ron fuel,in long term, the engine sure kaput (i.e.: shorter piston & conrod lifespan), u won't want your engine to died off from inner detonation.Yong_5290,u were saying perhaps can use management to retard timing. i'd say the 'idea' is a bit naive. yes, of course u can use management to control that, BUTi don't think that even worth the management. if i were to have management in my car, i'd use it for other better purpose, NOT just for using it to compensate the timing because of using ron95. and one fine day if u decided to use back ron97 (IF later gov down the prices.. * in all's dream * ), u gonna go set the timing again ? why the hassle ? if one can spent few hundreds/thousands bucks in upgrades of his/her car, and yet want to savethe tiny-winny $ to use ron95, then i dono what to say already... hahaha:stupid::stupid: maybe one word 'Bengong"Just my 50cent. today a bit emo...<img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smokin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":smokin:" title="Smokin    :smokin:" data-shortname=":smokin:" /><img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/nurse.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":nurse:" title="Nurse    :nurse:" data-shortname=":nurse:" /><img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/thefinger.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thefinger:" title="Thefinger    :thefinger:" data-shortname=":thefinger:" /></blockquote>