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<blockquote data-quote="FocalPoint" data-source="post: 4330518" data-attributes="member: 2732"><p>While it is good to have an open discussion on a subject matter such as oil additives, we would like to appeal to all and sundry to post comments in an objective and responsible manner.</p><p></p><p>We at Tufoil do feel hurt and slighted when some members are warning others about certain ingredients like ptfe in oil additives. Fluoramics Inc., the makers of Tufoil would not like to be put in the same basket of oil addtives as others who have failed or who are newbies trying to build up their brands and following.</p><p></p><p>Tufoil has been around for nearly 3 decades. It took some 10 years in R & D before the product was finally released into the US market. The product is known for its technology which is complex. This technology has been granted 12 international patents. Is this not something that is worthwhile to ponder about? Besides, Tufoil has been tested by both the USA and Canadian governments with success. No government will undertake to test something that is bordering on nonsense!</p><p></p><p>The product also came under scrutiny from POPULAR MECHANICS magazine, a 100 year old US publication over a 2 year test period. " It's absolutely spectacular" said the headlines in the magazine.It went on to say that Tufoil is " the super slick additive that works. It didn't clog the oil filter, didn't leak out at the gasket, didn't thin out at high speeds. It stayed in dispersion and cuts the fuel bill"</p><p></p><p>Fluoramics Inc. is probably one of those makers that uploads the complete ingredients of thier famous product. This shows fullest transparency and technical disclosure and is most welcomed by today's motoring generation. Given that all these ingredients can be purchased in the open market and that there are more oil engineers than ever before since the '80s, there must have been countless attempts to reverse engineer this acclaimed product. At best, the material composition was 100% copied, BUT the technology could not be DUPLICATED.</p><p></p><p>So, today we see so many brands of oil additives both local and foreign. We do not want to say whether they are good or no good. The verdict we shall always leave it to the users of the product and their informed judgement. You all have seen products come and go, some heavily advertised and then disappeared from the market radar. Some their retail selling price keep going down. What does all this mean. As an informed consumer, does this not give a gentle knock on the brain box?</p><p></p><p>Our closest friendly competitor Slick is today a company owned by Shell. You can see this at the back of the packing. Dupont, the makers of ptfe has also introduced their oil additive. These world-class companies would not want to waste their time making something that is useless or dangerous for car enthusiast at large. Besides, it would certainly be a black eye for their corporate image if things do not turn out well. Before Tufoil and in the sixties, Fluoramics Inc. was already into thread sealants for oil and gas, nuclear, hospitals and the like. The Products known as LOX-8 and grease are today the industry's standard. These highly acclaimed products lasts indefinitely and worth its weigh in gold with extremely high technical parameters. FOCAL POINT sells them too. It was from a breakthrough in the development of this very high technology that saw the development of Tufoil. Likewise like Shell and Dupont, Fluoramics Inc. will not want to ruin its reputation with something that is unsafe for use in the car. These sealants are today used by US top 500 corporations and this kind of trust and confidence is most important for the well being of the company. Thus there is absolutely no reason to risk a good established reputation and important business with a product will bring disaster.</p><p></p><p>About the long term use of Tufoil? Since the '80s, Fluoramics Inc. had already developed a 250,000 mile club for Tufoil users. This club has some years back, morphed into a 500,000 mile club! Locally, there have already been documented cases of super high mileage with the use of Tufoil. You can read these in the Tufoil lubricant forums. If indeed there is harm, these engines would have died a premature death. Engines that run cooler with cooler oil temperatures promotes their life span and gives out more power. Hot engines with hot oils will inevitably lead to sludge formation in what is popularly called the black death. This thing sludge does not choose victims just like smoking and cancer. Rich or poor. Cheap car or V8 limousines, they all succumb to sludge if engines are not cared for. We often hear of expensive cars suffering from sludge problems and they are all running on synthetic oils! Does this not ring a bell? This is certainly food for thought, I am sure.</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FocalPoint, post: 4330518, member: 2732"] While it is good to have an open discussion on a subject matter such as oil additives, we would like to appeal to all and sundry to post comments in an objective and responsible manner. We at Tufoil do feel hurt and slighted when some members are warning others about certain ingredients like ptfe in oil additives. Fluoramics Inc., the makers of Tufoil would not like to be put in the same basket of oil addtives as others who have failed or who are newbies trying to build up their brands and following. Tufoil has been around for nearly 3 decades. It took some 10 years in R & D before the product was finally released into the US market. The product is known for its technology which is complex. This technology has been granted 12 international patents. Is this not something that is worthwhile to ponder about? Besides, Tufoil has been tested by both the USA and Canadian governments with success. No government will undertake to test something that is bordering on nonsense! The product also came under scrutiny from POPULAR MECHANICS magazine, a 100 year old US publication over a 2 year test period. " It's absolutely spectacular" said the headlines in the magazine.It went on to say that Tufoil is " the super slick additive that works. It didn't clog the oil filter, didn't leak out at the gasket, didn't thin out at high speeds. It stayed in dispersion and cuts the fuel bill" Fluoramics Inc. is probably one of those makers that uploads the complete ingredients of thier famous product. This shows fullest transparency and technical disclosure and is most welcomed by today's motoring generation. Given that all these ingredients can be purchased in the open market and that there are more oil engineers than ever before since the '80s, there must have been countless attempts to reverse engineer this acclaimed product. At best, the material composition was 100% copied, BUT the technology could not be DUPLICATED. So, today we see so many brands of oil additives both local and foreign. We do not want to say whether they are good or no good. The verdict we shall always leave it to the users of the product and their informed judgement. You all have seen products come and go, some heavily advertised and then disappeared from the market radar. Some their retail selling price keep going down. What does all this mean. As an informed consumer, does this not give a gentle knock on the brain box? Our closest friendly competitor Slick is today a company owned by Shell. You can see this at the back of the packing. Dupont, the makers of ptfe has also introduced their oil additive. These world-class companies would not want to waste their time making something that is useless or dangerous for car enthusiast at large. Besides, it would certainly be a black eye for their corporate image if things do not turn out well. Before Tufoil and in the sixties, Fluoramics Inc. was already into thread sealants for oil and gas, nuclear, hospitals and the like. The Products known as LOX-8 and grease are today the industry's standard. These highly acclaimed products lasts indefinitely and worth its weigh in gold with extremely high technical parameters. FOCAL POINT sells them too. It was from a breakthrough in the development of this very high technology that saw the development of Tufoil. Likewise like Shell and Dupont, Fluoramics Inc. will not want to ruin its reputation with something that is unsafe for use in the car. These sealants are today used by US top 500 corporations and this kind of trust and confidence is most important for the well being of the company. Thus there is absolutely no reason to risk a good established reputation and important business with a product will bring disaster. About the long term use of Tufoil? Since the '80s, Fluoramics Inc. had already developed a 250,000 mile club for Tufoil users. This club has some years back, morphed into a 500,000 mile club! Locally, there have already been documented cases of super high mileage with the use of Tufoil. You can read these in the Tufoil lubricant forums. If indeed there is harm, these engines would have died a premature death. Engines that run cooler with cooler oil temperatures promotes their life span and gives out more power. Hot engines with hot oils will inevitably lead to sludge formation in what is popularly called the black death. This thing sludge does not choose victims just like smoking and cancer. Rich or poor. Cheap car or V8 limousines, they all succumb to sludge if engines are not cared for. We often hear of expensive cars suffering from sludge problems and they are all running on synthetic oils! Does this not ring a bell? This is certainly food for thought, I am sure. Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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