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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Useless" data-source="post: 1168367" data-attributes="member: 670">haha. sorry guys, seem like we are drifting off topic bit by bit here.fandango,i have not dabbled in any standalones on a deep level. i am trying very hard to dissociate myself from the world of tuning or whatever there is to do with mods. just that i have past experiences working with various ecus, and am currently doing vehicle diagnostics as a day-to-day job. to me, all the available standalones are pretty decent, just the amount of depth and time spent by the tuners would make a difference in the output. yolk and gt20v,i actually have met u guys ler. i doubt u remember me la. gt20v, i was the guy struggling with your vacuum problem while using the ipoh mali ecu. a friend of chin.i agree that rwd has a slightly greater average drivetrain loss as compared to ff. but 30 hp is way to large. i am talking in perspective of a run-in/well maintained drivetrain as comparison baseline. i believe atw rating is also subjective to the friction between flywheel and also clutch.lets direct back to topic a lil so that moderator wont ban topic. hehe.20v silvertop should run 4 throttles with standalone ecu with map sensor. somehow adapting the 20v silvertop to have a larger plenum is a problem. the jetronic type flap airflow sensing is somewhat a crude method of measuring airflow. map is not that accurate but cheap,reliable, and last long. still think that NA application should stick to karmann vortex or hot film but tuning it will be a difficult for standalone.cheers!</blockquote>

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