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<blockquote data-quote="shiroitenshi" data-source="post: 2051959" data-attributes="member: 27518"><p>That's just to have the B20B block with VTEC line.. no other stuff put in..(depends on how much you can get the block for.. I think the going rate is about RM800 a block, +VTEC line, near 2K.. so unless you install yourself, then your budget is still not enough.. :P.. Oh.. the 2K isn't including engine management.. so maybe I put too low a quote there.</p><p></p><p>You won't make much hp numbers, but you'd have more torque at lower end than a b16a..a sort of budget upgrade, in a way. It's really a cheap 'low end' setup, a 'very very basic' B20B setup. low compression pistons of the B20B is the weak link of the basic set. Cam wise.. one has to wonder if you need such high duration when you're rev limited to 8K. Standard B16A cams is quite enough already, if you're not revving past that 8K mark..</p><p></p><p>It's one thing to plonk in a B20B block, it's another matter building it to make more power than a B18C. That's why the big gap in pricing.</p><p></p><p>If you're on a budget, CF4 pistons, standard B16A cams and intake can net you some good hp numbers, probably near to what a stock R makes.. at a fraction of the price.. consider the price of a complete R engine, and you'd see where I'm hinting at. Of course, you need H22A injectors as well, so add about rm450 to that.</p><p>But overall, the other stuff like intakes and headers can come later, since you'd still be able to run the engine with stock B16A mods like headers and such. It's a bottleneck, but one that can be adjusted with tuning.</p><p></p><p>Another thing about comparing B20B and B18C is, you're comparing PEAK hp numbers, which you only see at 6-8K rpm when you're comparing B18C and B20B.. get dyno charts of both engines, and see how the power is distributed across the rev range.. that's what power is.. not just peak hp. I've seen a B20B chart on a mid range B20B setup before.. needless to say.. it makes torque at 3-4K like mine makes at 6K after vtec.. but with no drastic increase after VTEC like the B16A/B.... still that can be 'kawtim-ed' with further mods. :P</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shiroitenshi, post: 2051959, member: 27518"] That's just to have the B20B block with VTEC line.. no other stuff put in..(depends on how much you can get the block for.. I think the going rate is about RM800 a block, +VTEC line, near 2K.. so unless you install yourself, then your budget is still not enough.. :P.. Oh.. the 2K isn't including engine management.. so maybe I put too low a quote there. You won't make much hp numbers, but you'd have more torque at lower end than a b16a..a sort of budget upgrade, in a way. It's really a cheap 'low end' setup, a 'very very basic' B20B setup. low compression pistons of the B20B is the weak link of the basic set. Cam wise.. one has to wonder if you need such high duration when you're rev limited to 8K. Standard B16A cams is quite enough already, if you're not revving past that 8K mark.. It's one thing to plonk in a B20B block, it's another matter building it to make more power than a B18C. That's why the big gap in pricing. If you're on a budget, CF4 pistons, standard B16A cams and intake can net you some good hp numbers, probably near to what a stock R makes.. at a fraction of the price.. consider the price of a complete R engine, and you'd see where I'm hinting at. Of course, you need H22A injectors as well, so add about rm450 to that. But overall, the other stuff like intakes and headers can come later, since you'd still be able to run the engine with stock B16A mods like headers and such. It's a bottleneck, but one that can be adjusted with tuning. Another thing about comparing B20B and B18C is, you're comparing PEAK hp numbers, which you only see at 6-8K rpm when you're comparing B18C and B20B.. get dyno charts of both engines, and see how the power is distributed across the rev range.. that's what power is.. not just peak hp. I've seen a B20B chart on a mid range B20B setup before.. needless to say.. it makes torque at 3-4K like mine makes at 6K after vtec.. but with no drastic increase after VTEC like the B16A/B.... still that can be 'kawtim-ed' with further mods. :P [/QUOTE]
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