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Message: <blockquote data-quote="escaflowne" data-source="post: 1908275" data-attributes="member: 2808">Just for my personal opinionA thermodynamic engine obeys thermo law.Thermodynamic first law : if you give give certain amount of INPUT,you get certain amount of OUTPUT(Consider ideal condition),rmb conservation of energy?And for let's say in reality situation the amount INPUT definetly is not equal to your OUTPUT as there will be heat loss and other energy lossSo i always look at those fuel saver as the device that makes our engine run more efficient NOT with the less input u get the same amount of output or more.Our engine is a typical example of an heat engine,it is theoritically impossible to decrease the input BUT maximise or equavalent to the output b4 the decrease.IMHO,wat fuel saver does is that as time goes by our engine is not running at their full efficiency and we normal driver can hardly notice the difference(unless everyone afford to do those test ),or sometimes the car that we bought just fresh out of the owen MIGHT run slight lower efficiency.So we are looking at our heat eninge(our car engine) is having a little too much of energy loss which of course consitute to alot of factors.Here comes the fuel saver,plug it in,test it out and wahlao i can save some petrol!!Of course,because your engine now run slightly more efficient,and same with the slight power increase.We can never achieve " Less fuel" and i get "more power" ,it is impossible.if anyone can do so,he might win the noble prize.I have long forgotten those crazy theory and calculation any engineer can correct my mistake yaFuel saver makes your car more efficient not LESS FUEL MORE POWER.If so,i hope i can see the theoritcal proof in calculation.But anyway i dun feel that fuel saver is all bad,just the prespective must be correct.My 2 cent</blockquote>

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