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Message: <blockquote data-quote="papagoines" data-source="post: 3923284" data-attributes="member: 22794">Nowadays, L5 users are catching up fast due to parts getting easier to get these days.... now its a matter of preference...L2 Pros and Cons<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - Parts exchangeability wif kancil and some kelisa</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - Since L2 arrived earlier, most performance tuners already understands L2 design and limitation more</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - Easy upgrade from 660cc to 850cc/1000cc simply by changing block from kancil/kelisa/kenari</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - Less headache when swapping since its a direct bolt on</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cons - its an ageing design. It last stop production 1993</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cons - Prone to overheat on long distance hi speed cruising</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cons - Suffers same air con issues as kancil even after swapping with L5 dashboard and blowers</li> </ol>L5 Pros and Cons<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - for the 16v models, its smoother than L2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - Capable highway cruiser... so far no overheat</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - It uses timing chain, so no more timing belt issues</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - The aircon are colder and more reliable</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pro - Newer design than L2, so more likely to see untouched (i.e. not overhauled yet) unit at hafkat</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cons - Parts are not easy to come by, but they are increasing in numbers..</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cons - Tuning capabilities are still limited since tuners still learning its design and systems</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cons - Not so easy to swap if you don't have the original subframe...</li> </ol>I hope that L2 users correct me if I'm wrong...IMHO, L2 are best for performance junkies... L5 for ppl who want to take it easy... but stock vs stock both are the same....but then, at drag strips, autocross in japan all uses L5 engines right so its a matter of time L5 will replace L2 as a performance optionfor me.... I'm a recent convert to L5 16v turbo <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin    :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" />http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/papagoines/My%20Car/EngineSwap/Engine/IMG_1961-resized.jpg...and loving it :proud:</blockquote>

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