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<blockquote data-quote="defcon1" data-source="post: 1673432" data-attributes="member: 30064"><p>Hmmmm...actually, engineering has very little to do with it. A31 is pretty darn old, yet it handles better than any ceffy to come after. It's cost and marketing.</p><p></p><p>The torsion bar on the later ceffys truly degrade the ride. The apparent better handling on the A33 is simply a matter of different shock/spring combi, slightly stiffer bushings and some simple cambering. I test drove the A33...didn't find it any better than the A32 stock.</p><p></p><p>The Perdana is actually equipped with a better undercarriage. Mcphearson multi-link and totally independent shocks makes it a totally different machine from the ceffy in terms of handling. It's also lighter, so a better overall power/weight ratio. I could out-drive a 2.0 ceffy in a 2.0 Perdana V6 quite easily on a balanced track i.e. half corners and half straights.</p><p></p><p>Nissan actually took all the fun out of their vehicles by opting for a cheaper rear suspension system. Even the Sentra now sports a similar torsion bar...totally uncontrollable if you lose traction. The Vios is a much better handling vehicle.</p><p></p><p>The only things that the ceffy really has that is an advantage over the competition is a better engine and a much stiffer and stronger chasis. However, power without control kills. I would prefer a strong, stiff chasis, and a good undercarriage. The engine, I can transplant so it's not a priority.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="defcon1, post: 1673432, member: 30064"] Hmmmm...actually, engineering has very little to do with it. A31 is pretty darn old, yet it handles better than any ceffy to come after. It's cost and marketing. The torsion bar on the later ceffys truly degrade the ride. The apparent better handling on the A33 is simply a matter of different shock/spring combi, slightly stiffer bushings and some simple cambering. I test drove the A33...didn't find it any better than the A32 stock. The Perdana is actually equipped with a better undercarriage. Mcphearson multi-link and totally independent shocks makes it a totally different machine from the ceffy in terms of handling. It's also lighter, so a better overall power/weight ratio. I could out-drive a 2.0 ceffy in a 2.0 Perdana V6 quite easily on a balanced track i.e. half corners and half straights. Nissan actually took all the fun out of their vehicles by opting for a cheaper rear suspension system. Even the Sentra now sports a similar torsion bar...totally uncontrollable if you lose traction. The Vios is a much better handling vehicle. The only things that the ceffy really has that is an advantage over the competition is a better engine and a much stiffer and stronger chasis. However, power without control kills. I would prefer a strong, stiff chasis, and a good undercarriage. The engine, I can transplant so it's not a priority. [/QUOTE]
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