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<blockquote data-quote="mizunori77" data-source="post: 1063463837" data-attributes="member: 44954"><p>CSL,</p><p></p><p>I don't think it is logical to link Nuclear meltdowns with vehicular accidents based on the number of deaths alone.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, survivors of vehicular accidents and their lineage don't carry the risk of getting cancer from accidents, unlike a nuclear meltdown.</p><p></p><p>From my limited knowledge (which came from Google), most nuclear power plants is located near the sea or a large water source to provide for cooling purposes.</p><p></p><p>It takes 800++ gallons (about 3.2k liters) of water to provide cooling for 1megawatt. As Malaysia plans to have two 1,000MW nuclear plants, we are looking at 6.4 million liters of water.</p><p></p><p>As the government and some analysts are saying that the country would be facing water shortage in the future, just like how we would be facing energy shortage in the future, i doubt that they can afford to use freshwater to cool the nuclear plants.</p><p></p><p>sea water is drawn to the plant to cool it and the hot water is redirected back to sea.</p><p></p><p>If the nuclear plants are located near the sea, what else are the implications?</p><p></p><p>1. environmental concerns on the ecology. i read somewhere that prolonged high temp (approximately 30+ C) at the outlet area does not help marine life at all.</p><p></p><p>2. Malaysia is surrounded by neighbours such as Indonesia and the Philippines that are prone to earthquakes. what happens if a tsunami hits?</p><p></p><p>3. how would the fishermen and the fishing industry be affected (although most of them fish at the borders if Indonesia as our fish supply is already depleted)?</p><p></p><p>4. what about the most cost effective infrastructure to supply and distribute the electricity to the rest of the peninsular?</p><p></p><p>5. continuing on number 4, i am guessing that Penang, Selangor and Johor most likely consumes the most electricity in peninsular malaysia and the two nuclear plants would have to be located near these 3 states. since selangor and penang refuse to have a nuclear plant in the state, it means that it would be located at a neighbouring state, like perak or pahang. what are the economic and the social impact of those states?</p><p></p><p>6. land space is also another issue. i think there is a minimum safety distance between a nuclear reactor and commercial/residential areas. this means the power plants would need more space, which means more trees would be cut down. </p><p></p><p>the weather patterns had changed a lot recently, with many states experiencing floods. what would happen when more trees are cut down and the sky pours like it has a very bad case of food poisoning?</p><p></p><p>7. even if the people managing the nuclear plant are well-trained and know what they are doing? what about the emergency support services?</p><p></p><p>it is one thing to know what to do when massive flooding occurs but it is another different thing altogether if mass evacuation is needed due to the wind taking the radiation leak inland or city bound.</p><p></p><p>and btw, shit does happen, even when u r prepared. look at japan, they even have a tsunami retaining wall at the port in iwate but the tsunami breached the walls because of the sheer volume of sea water. waves between 6m and 10m in height sweeped as far as 6km inland, killing thousands of people.</p><p></p><p>best practices and procedures cant save you from mother nature. it is what you are able to do after that which counts.</p><p></p><p>for the moment, i don't think our emergency support services can handle it. :hmmmm:</p><p></p><p>FVel, tks for sharing... i totally forgot Malaysia has the AELB... <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/adore.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":adore:" title="adore :adore:" data-shortname=":adore:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mizunori77, post: 1063463837, member: 44954"] CSL, I don't think it is logical to link Nuclear meltdowns with vehicular accidents based on the number of deaths alone. Furthermore, survivors of vehicular accidents and their lineage don't carry the risk of getting cancer from accidents, unlike a nuclear meltdown. From my limited knowledge (which came from Google), most nuclear power plants is located near the sea or a large water source to provide for cooling purposes. It takes 800++ gallons (about 3.2k liters) of water to provide cooling for 1megawatt. As Malaysia plans to have two 1,000MW nuclear plants, we are looking at 6.4 million liters of water. As the government and some analysts are saying that the country would be facing water shortage in the future, just like how we would be facing energy shortage in the future, i doubt that they can afford to use freshwater to cool the nuclear plants. sea water is drawn to the plant to cool it and the hot water is redirected back to sea. If the nuclear plants are located near the sea, what else are the implications? 1. environmental concerns on the ecology. i read somewhere that prolonged high temp (approximately 30+ C) at the outlet area does not help marine life at all. 2. Malaysia is surrounded by neighbours such as Indonesia and the Philippines that are prone to earthquakes. what happens if a tsunami hits? 3. how would the fishermen and the fishing industry be affected (although most of them fish at the borders if Indonesia as our fish supply is already depleted)? 4. what about the most cost effective infrastructure to supply and distribute the electricity to the rest of the peninsular? 5. continuing on number 4, i am guessing that Penang, Selangor and Johor most likely consumes the most electricity in peninsular malaysia and the two nuclear plants would have to be located near these 3 states. since selangor and penang refuse to have a nuclear plant in the state, it means that it would be located at a neighbouring state, like perak or pahang. what are the economic and the social impact of those states? 6. land space is also another issue. i think there is a minimum safety distance between a nuclear reactor and commercial/residential areas. this means the power plants would need more space, which means more trees would be cut down. the weather patterns had changed a lot recently, with many states experiencing floods. what would happen when more trees are cut down and the sky pours like it has a very bad case of food poisoning? 7. even if the people managing the nuclear plant are well-trained and know what they are doing? what about the emergency support services? it is one thing to know what to do when massive flooding occurs but it is another different thing altogether if mass evacuation is needed due to the wind taking the radiation leak inland or city bound. and btw, shit does happen, even when u r prepared. look at japan, they even have a tsunami retaining wall at the port in iwate but the tsunami breached the walls because of the sheer volume of sea water. waves between 6m and 10m in height sweeped as far as 6km inland, killing thousands of people. best practices and procedures cant save you from mother nature. it is what you are able to do after that which counts. for the moment, i don't think our emergency support services can handle it. :hmmmm: FVel, tks for sharing... i totally forgot Malaysia has the AELB... :adore: [/QUOTE]
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