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<blockquote data-quote="defcon1" data-source="post: 1446060" data-attributes="member: 30064"><p>Actually...that message was incomplete... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1425" alt=":smile:" title="Smile :smile:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":smile:" /></p><p></p><p>Was in the middle of typing it from the office when I had to see to something and forgot about it... <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laugh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" /></p><p></p><p>Was about to say...me using Titan Pro-cut right now... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1425" alt=":smile:" title="Smile :smile:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":smile:" /></p><p></p><p>Richard, the boss of <span style="color: Red"><strong>Titan</strong></span>, is a <span style="color: red"><strong>pro</strong></span>...and he decided to <span style="color: red"><strong>cut</strong></span> my springs... <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laugh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" /></p><p></p><p>But actually, I cut them simply to test my theory that the current profile of the A32 was not what the designers intended, and what shifting the weight distribution of the car will do for the handling. Lowered the front by about 2".</p><p></p><p>Conclusion :</p><p></p><p>a) More positive steering feel and response.</p><p>b) Marginally better turning radius...about a foot smaller circle.</p><p>c) Better interior stability at the driver seat level...means rather than getting thrown around when you corner hard, you tend to rotate around the vertical axis through the centre of gravity of the car.</p><p>d) Funny squeeks and klanks when you climb multi-level car parks - obviously not an improvement, hence, my decision to get rid of the pro-cuts. Can be eliminated if you can find the appropriate spring spacer, but those are not easy to get.</p><p></p><p>...all in all, a successful test of how changing the profile of the car marginally will affect the overall handling. Also, slightly softer "wind" noise at higher speeds...which reinforces my belief that the profile should be as I had adjusted it. Softer wind noise means that the aerodynamics of the car and the exterior accessories were optimized.</p><p></p><p>As for the Hotbits set I bought from Ong...one word of caution as I think I have analyzed the reason Ong was getting such a harsh ride in his feilo.</p><p></p><p>The hotbits adjustables are semi-race height adjustable shocks. Certainly not meant for the track...they would never survive a full race. Also, SPEEDWORKS has NO R & D facility...so they simply acquire what looks good to sell in the local market. They are simple traders who have managed to hoodwink most people into believing that they really know what they are talking about...mostly because one of the shareholders happened to be a local race driver before. Unfortunately, if we were to equate the sport of racing to the soccer field...the real brains behind the team is the coach...whereas the player/driver is simply the one who takes the bows and goes,"I just give my hundred percent...duh!".</p><p></p><p>There are a few issues with the hotbits set...</p><p></p><p>a) Springs are much more aggressive than the oem springs. This in itself is not bad...if they are matched against shocks that have the correct damping properties.</p><p></p><p>b) Hotbits shocks - typical of Japanese race shock design, the valves tend to hold for a split second before opening up. It could be that the viscosity of the oil inside is a tad thicker than prescribed for normal street use. Or the valve design is lacking. </p><p></p><p>Hence, on smooth terrain, they will work well going into and out of corners. BUT when faced with a rough surface, with a high frequency of bumps and holes, they will tend to be very harsh...the bumps and holes passing before the damper has a chance to act. I used to have a similar effect on my GAB's (real Japanese GABs, assembled to my specs, and couriered in for me.</p><p></p><p>These types of absorbers tend to rely on the initial damping effects of the tyres to minimize the harshness of the ride.</p><p></p><p>With Ong's 18" rims...and the accompanying "rubber bands", plus his high tyre pressure of 35 psi (to protect the rims)...one can only ask,"WHAT initial damping effect?"... <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laugh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" /></p><p></p><p>So, if you are using any bigger than 16" rims, and 45 series tyres...with a tyre pressure of no higher than 30 - 32 psi ...forget about the hotbits set and any other race/semi-race type adjustables. Just get an Eibach Pro-Kit...or get Titan to make you a "comfort" set of shocks...though I would consider this a waste since I believe that the pro-kit would get you an equivalent ride at a fraction of the cost.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="defcon1, post: 1446060, member: 30064"] Actually...that message was incomplete... :smile: Was in the middle of typing it from the office when I had to see to something and forgot about it... :laugh: Was about to say...me using Titan Pro-cut right now... :smile: Richard, the boss of [COLOR="Red"][B]Titan[/B][/COLOR], is a [COLOR="red"][B]pro[/B][/COLOR]...and he decided to [COLOR="red"][B]cut[/B][/COLOR] my springs... :laugh: But actually, I cut them simply to test my theory that the current profile of the A32 was not what the designers intended, and what shifting the weight distribution of the car will do for the handling. Lowered the front by about 2". Conclusion : a) More positive steering feel and response. b) Marginally better turning radius...about a foot smaller circle. c) Better interior stability at the driver seat level...means rather than getting thrown around when you corner hard, you tend to rotate around the vertical axis through the centre of gravity of the car. d) Funny squeeks and klanks when you climb multi-level car parks - obviously not an improvement, hence, my decision to get rid of the pro-cuts. Can be eliminated if you can find the appropriate spring spacer, but those are not easy to get. ...all in all, a successful test of how changing the profile of the car marginally will affect the overall handling. Also, slightly softer "wind" noise at higher speeds...which reinforces my belief that the profile should be as I had adjusted it. Softer wind noise means that the aerodynamics of the car and the exterior accessories were optimized. As for the Hotbits set I bought from Ong...one word of caution as I think I have analyzed the reason Ong was getting such a harsh ride in his feilo. The hotbits adjustables are semi-race height adjustable shocks. Certainly not meant for the track...they would never survive a full race. Also, SPEEDWORKS has NO R & D facility...so they simply acquire what looks good to sell in the local market. They are simple traders who have managed to hoodwink most people into believing that they really know what they are talking about...mostly because one of the shareholders happened to be a local race driver before. Unfortunately, if we were to equate the sport of racing to the soccer field...the real brains behind the team is the coach...whereas the player/driver is simply the one who takes the bows and goes,"I just give my hundred percent...duh!". There are a few issues with the hotbits set... a) Springs are much more aggressive than the oem springs. This in itself is not bad...if they are matched against shocks that have the correct damping properties. b) Hotbits shocks - typical of Japanese race shock design, the valves tend to hold for a split second before opening up. It could be that the viscosity of the oil inside is a tad thicker than prescribed for normal street use. Or the valve design is lacking. Hence, on smooth terrain, they will work well going into and out of corners. BUT when faced with a rough surface, with a high frequency of bumps and holes, they will tend to be very harsh...the bumps and holes passing before the damper has a chance to act. I used to have a similar effect on my GAB's (real Japanese GABs, assembled to my specs, and couriered in for me. These types of absorbers tend to rely on the initial damping effects of the tyres to minimize the harshness of the ride. With Ong's 18" rims...and the accompanying "rubber bands", plus his high tyre pressure of 35 psi (to protect the rims)...one can only ask,"WHAT initial damping effect?"... :laugh: So, if you are using any bigger than 16" rims, and 45 series tyres...with a tyre pressure of no higher than 30 - 32 psi ...forget about the hotbits set and any other race/semi-race type adjustables. Just get an Eibach Pro-Kit...or get Titan to make you a "comfort" set of shocks...though I would consider this a waste since I believe that the pro-kit would get you an equivalent ride at a fraction of the cost. [/QUOTE]
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